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112: Rob Bell – On How Speaking is Spiritual

Happy Season 3!

This is big, friends. I had the huge honor of having a 45-minute conversation with the amazing Rob Bell. In fact, I call him that so often I think he should just change his name to “the amazing Rob Bell.”

Here’s the technicalities of his impressive bio:

Rob Bell is The New York Times bestselling author of Love Wins, What We Talk About When We Talk about God, The Zimzum of Love and his most recent book How To Be Here. iTunes named his podcast, The RobCast, Best of 2015. He’s been profiled in The New Yorker, he’s toured with Oprah on her Life You Want Tour, and in 2011 Time Magazine named him one of the 100 Most Influential People In The World. He has a regular show at Largo, the legendary music and comedy club in West Hollywood and is currently touring his How To Be Here Experience around the world. He and his wife Kristen have three children and live in Los Angeles.

[Holy crap, people. Oprah. Time Magazine. Books. And!, he’s besties with, like, all my favorite people. I’m sorry, I can’t stop gushing.]

But here’s what I’ve learned by watching his talks (inspiring, and a masterclass in the craft of speaking) and listening to his podcast (love it, one of my faves) and reading his books (smarty and awesome): Rob Bell is the real deal, and he is led by an internal compass and a sincere quest to follow his curiosity and soak up the life that is in front of him. He is smart. He is funny. He is grounded. He is not afraid to change his life and challenge others, and speak up. And after a brief 45-minute conversation, I felt like we were friends. I hope that’s true, because he is a good person to have in this world. I have benefitted from him just being here.

So what I’m saying, movers, is that it’s not just a really impressive and long list of accolades; it could be infinitely longer if you named all the people he’s impacted, inspired, and changed.

Show Highlights

#Speakers – “You get to create new worlds.” @RobBell on @ThisMovedMe

On the show, we talked about:

  • Transformation – the role of words in our capacity to impact change
  • The universal and the particular – and how we need them both
  • How presence and witnessing is the real power of speaking
  • That risk and vulnerability are real – but if they keep you from doing what you need and feel called to do, you have more growth to do. #realtalk #rememberthis #talkingtomyselfhere
  • Creativity and creating – the joy and the need for it

Where can we find the universal? It lives in the particular.

Resources & Links


Rob talked about being inspired by his friend – an improviser/performer/writer he saw who really wow’d him.

And, Rob talked about his son performing at this wonderful night club. This nightclub opens itself up to young bands. Why? Because they believe in supporting young creatives. Creating stuff is cool – and, speaking for myself, as a parent whenever I see my kids create something, it is an incredibly moving experience. Bringing something new to the world is so cool


I honestly wasn’t trying to suck up when I shared my TMMM for the week; it is an episode from Rob’s podcast, the RobcastEpisode 99 with Leith McHugh sharing a truly devastating tale of the last few years of her life. It was not unlike the movie Unbroken where you think – “Really? More?! How much can someone take?” And yet, we humans are resilient beings – and Leith focuses her efforts on rebooting her life, finding another way, some light in the darkness.  These stories are so important to hear because they both shine a light on what’s possible and give us powerful perspective. And, it moved me that Rob was moved in the sharing of these stories. Check it out!


Thank you for joining me on the show. It was a joy!